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How to start fly fishing for Carp in the UK

On September 11, 2010, in Fly Fishing Articles and Advice, by CudaFly

Carp fly fishing is a fantastic alternative to trout fly fishing and I feel should be tried at least once by all fly anglers. These carp are pure muscle and will run constantly. The nearest that you will get to these monsters is bone fishing. Another fantastic aspect to the sport of fly fishing, but one that unfortunately can be financially prohibitive.

Equipment needed

If you saltwater fly fish you will already have most of the equipment needed. Ideally a #8 weight 9 foot fly rod with large arbour reel and floating line is the basics. If you have a reservoir fly fishing outfit you can use this although a 10 foot fly rod maybe a little difficult casting in the tight spots required for carp. You will also find that a #7 weight rod maybe difficult to handle such powerful fish.
The other ‘essentials’ are tapered leaders from 8lb breaking strain and up and a good set of polarised glasses. Also a large landing net of a knotless mesh type. This is extremely important. The monetary value alone of large carp can get you quickly banned from a fishery is you damage fish. Also for those who have not coarse fished before carp anglers are notorious for there passion for caring in the returning of carp. All carp fisheries will also require you to have an unhooking mat. These are quite inexpensive at around £20 and can reduce the damage to landed carp. Lastly you just need a box of flies. I have a great pattern for carp but no photographs at the time of writing. I will therefore write some tying instructions and pictures in the next few days and post.

Before you go

Before you go to your chosen fishery phone them and make sure that you are allowed to fly fish. Many fisheries either don’t allow or more usual are not aware that you can fly fish for carp. In the latter case state that you have an unhooking mat, that you will fish away from other anglers and that before you cast your fly that you will ensure that nobody is around you. In the current climate of litigation fishery owners are worried of any kind of accident occurring. If possible also state that you will fish during there ‘quite’ times, usually during the week. If you take this approach any reservations from the fishery owner will soon disappear and from personal experience once they realise that you are not an idiot they will both welcome and encourage your visits.

Just look how this Ten Pound carp runs and bends an eight weight

Fishing Methods

Carp feed basically on the same food as trout so a lot of flies that you already own will suffice. If you fish in other parts of the world where carp are in there natural habitat this is more applicable than in the UK. I have had great success using large daddy long leg patterns fished to rising carp.
In the UK however carp fishing is managed and therefore carp will be used to feeding on man made products and maggots. A good maggot pattern is a Okey Dokey which are easy to tie.
During the summer carp will bask in the sun and readily feed of the surface. Carp anglers will feed the carp on floating dog biscuits and bread. Carp will come up readily for these free offerings but are very spooky whilst doing so. Carp anglers use a combination of a large weighted float and bait to catch these rising carp. However there are two disadvantages to this which actually become an advantage to us as fly anglers. The first is that the float is bulky and disturbs the water when casted. The only way carp anglers can the catch is to over cast the float and then retrieve the float and bait combination to the rising carp. Carp are very wary and associate this wake and float to a baited hook and therefore tend to reject the bait. The other disadvantage is that the baited hook is either floated up with foam to compensate for the hook or the bait sinks when the rest of the free offerings sink slightly and expand floating with the top of the bait in the meniscus. With the above carp fishing method this cannot be achieved and the carp will refuse the baited hook but eat all the free offerings.
This is where fly fishing has the real advantage. Pick a ‘swim’ where there is lots of lilly pads, tree stumps or significant features where you can comfortable cast to without causing disturbance to the water. Throw in a few handfuls of floating bread. Here I would recommend creating two or three swims and wait until the carp are feeding off the top comfortably. Use a bread imitation fly with a small amount of floatant to the very top of the fly. This will ensure that most of the body of the fly will sink but the top will be in the meniscus as per your free offerings. The bread fly is easy to tie. Use a size #6 carp hook and bed the hook with white thread. Using any form of white artificial soft hair and dub heavily a body using a dubbing needle to pull out the dubbed hair as much as possible. Tie off and varnish the head. When you can see the carp feeding on your free offerings keep your body low to the ground so as not to spook the fish and cast two to three feet ahead of your carp. Slowly pull the fly line to sink your leader and wait. The bread fly will then expand with the water and sink slightly. Watch the fly, not the fly line. Once you see the carps lips rise to your fly strike. You will have to strike quickly as carp can spit a fly quicker than any other fish I know. It will take a bit of time to master when to strike but persevere with it. This method may seem cheating compared to traditional fly fishing but is the most successful way I know of catching these fish in the UK. It will be worth it. A ten pound carp will take at least fifteen minutes to land and remember a 20lb carp is a regular catch so hold onto your rod.

A nice common carp taken on a bread fly

For those of you who saltwater fly fish this is the same method to use to catch mullet.
As a by note for any budding authors, I have so many books on fly fishing in all its aspects but I have never come across a book dedicated to carp fly fishing. Maybe you have and I would be interested in knowing the title and author.

About the author

CudaFly

Steve Beacall is the owner of Cudafly and has been running this business for over four years. Steve has been fishing since the age of 10. If its got fins Steve will try to catch it on the fly. Starting as most of us do with coarse the sea angling, Steve found his true angling passion within Game fishing. From working within the industry starting at a trout fishery and then as a sales representative with some of the leading manufactures in the game sector, Steve always has his finger on the pulse. Since starting fly fishing Steve has always tied his own flies. Observation at the water side is reflected in his own innovative fly designs .Professionally tying first for a trout fishery, then supplying 20 game angling outlets to the opening of Steve’s custom flies. Steve has also tied at the British Fly Fair on a number of occasions. Steve is always approachable either at the bank side or via this blog. If you would like any fly tying or fly fishing help simply post a comment and Steve will reply ASAP. This Blog is a collection of his fly tying and fly fishing experiences, thoughts and tying styles.

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5 Responses to “How to start fly fishing for Carp in the UK”

  1. How to start fly fishing for Carp in the UK :: Angling Tuition says:
    October 12, 2010 at 10:03 pm

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  2. Neil says:
    October 13, 2010 at 9:54 am

    Hi Steve

    Love the write up. Have purchased off you while in the UK. I always enjoy pictures of flies used in articles. Being back in OZ inspiration is appreciated.

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  3. Jason says:
    September 11, 2012 at 12:24 pm

    Now this is very interesting as I am a Carp angler myself yet I have been considering taking to the fly for hot summers days or on certain pits where the Carp are just extremely wary to the usual anglers baits. I find my self struggling to catch Carp from the surface yet people tell me its the easiest way to catch them. Perhaps I have not gave it enough time to produce however I do believe by using the fly it will produce much more effectively. I have found your blog very interesting and helpful as it it exactly what I was looking for.

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    • Ocean Tackle Store says:
      March 26, 2013 at 4:00 pm

      Jason, I think you’re correct in relation to not quite giving it enough time when catching Carp from the surface. However, maybe try varying your technique and approach and see if results differ.

      Reply
  4. Graham Mabey says:
    March 20, 2013 at 10:44 pm

    Beys guys.

    I just thought I would let you and your readers know that our fishery is perfect for fly fishing for carp. We hold regular Monday evening sessions where one of our canals is for fly fishing only.

    We are also looking to set up a national competition this summer. If you or any of your readers who write bogs would like to come down and sample the fly fishing for carp at the FLE Fishery in Hampshire you are more than welcome too come fish free of charge.

    We hope to hear from you soon and see you down this way having fun.

    Graham
    Team FLE

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